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So slut shaming fake geek girls... by shadowzabimaru So slut shaming fake geek girls... by shadowzabimaru
Yeah.
SRSLY. Robin doesn't care if Squire's wearing spandex cuz HE'S WEARING SPANDEX TOO. So why is it a problem for us?

Can you imagine the guys in Justice League calling Wonderwoman a whore?

Obviously, i didn't draw the batman panel.
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:iconbonnybanshey:
because guys don't like that maybe not all girls are airheaded iggits
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Kell0x Feb 12, 2014  Student General Artist
So very true. ":thumbsup: it's a form of sexism and that some male geeks have this mindset of No-Boys allowed.
Also one of the things that happen regular: i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/779046784… makes me wonder who the fake-geek is :lol:
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matthew-lane Sep 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah becauses thats totally why people are calling fakes fake.

*picks up some straw from the ground & hands it to the artist*

You strawman seems to be leaking.
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shadowzabimaru Oct 1, 2013  Student General Artist
listen here good sir. There is no such thing as a fake geek girl. There are only girls with varying degrees of love for things considered geek. 
This argument has many aspects, and i have chosen to focus on just one for this piece. That does not make my argument straw.
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matthew-lane Oct 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
"There is no such thing as a fake geek girl"

Of course there is. As soon as something becomes popular, or there is some power in it that doesn't require the generation of a critiquable object there will be fakes... Heck even when an outcome based creation is required some fakers still fake it.

Take Alana Sonnen for instance: Failed wannabe porn-star literally faked being a gamer for money... It turned out that her son was playing FPS's for her off screen, while she sat around on camera in a pair of panties pretending to be a gamer.

So right off the bat your hypothesis that there is no such thing as a fake geek firl has been demonstrated as being wrong: She's not a little bit geeky & just ptretending to be more geeky, she is not geeky at all: Something she's admitted. An i hate to break it to you but thats actually pretty commonplace.

In fact if we banned cosplay at most mainstream conventions a conservative estimate would be that we would lose in exces of 50% of our female attendies, as there only reason for attending will have been removed (attention seeking).

So yeah, what you've generated is a strawman predicated entirely on a two-fold "ultimate attribution error".

An just in case you don't know what a ultimate attribution error is: The ultimate attribution error is a group bias that explains the relations between ingroups and outgroups and their behaviours. The ultimate attribution error arises as a way to explain an outgroup’s negative behaviour as flaws in their personality, and to explain an outgroup's positive behaviour as a result of chance or circumstance. It is also the belief that positive acts performed by ingroup members are as a result of their personality, whereas if an ingroup member behaves negatively, it is a result of situational factors.

So in this case you consider females to be the in-group who you've decided are always geeks, even when it can be demonstrated that they aren't. An you've determined male geeks are your outgroup & they all are sexist due to being part of the outgroup.

However reality doesn't work like that: Of the femlaes involved not all of them are going to be geeks, or even interested: Some are specifically fakes. An when a guy points out a fake he's not doing it due to some kind of gendered hatred.

When someone points out a fake geek girl, the negative qualifier is fake, not girl. :)
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The issue is that male geeks are being judgmental and assume the worst about girls for being girls. Some people are fake, some aren't- that's not the point. 
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matthew-lane Feb 12, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist

"The issue is that male geeks are being judgmental and assume the worst about girls for being girls."


Actually no. They are assuming that the fakers are fakers.... An they have come to realise that these people are fakes because when they try to talk to them about the thing they are cosplaying, it rapidly becomes increasingly clear that they have no idea who they are cosplaying as outside of a name & rote description.


For these fakers, they are faking it because they want to appear to be fans of something without the effort or interest in it to actually be a fan. Its nothing more than an attempt to gain a sort of contact high version of popularity, by pretending to be part of something that is currently popular.

"Some people are fake, some aren't- that's not the point."

That's exactly the point. The negative connotation in fake geek girl is *FAKE* geek girl & not fake geek *GIRL*.

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That really isn't what this deviation is about. It's about judgmental geeks- are you saying they do not exist, and that every single case of a "fake geek girl" must be true?
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matthew-lane Feb 13, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist

"That really isn't what this deviation is about"

No, what this deviation is about is constructing a gender based strawman, that is attempting to shame all men, into never judging any woman based on there appearance. This is of course bullshit, since we all make judgement calls based on appearance, since the human brain is a pattern seeking organ.... We would not be able to survive with out that particular feature.


No matter how much you tell men they should be ashamed for realising that an attention seeking woman, is attempting to seek attention, the more pissed off & adamant about it men will get & rightly so. So instead of allowing your own hardwired same group preference to get in the way of common sense, stop and ask yourself one question: Why am I defending a group of predatory women, with no interest in my sub-culture into my sub-culture, to bastardise it into something twisted.

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:icongreatkingrat88:
Let's break this down:

There does, in this world, exist judgmental people. Some of them are male nerds, who condescend female nerds because they do not fit their arbitrary standards of nerdhood. This exists as a phenomenon. To what degree it exists is up for debate, but its existence is not. And that is what this deviation is about. Not some gender-shaming strawman (I don't recall the deviation gearing itself to all male geeks), but a criticism of judgmental attitudes.

What is so hard to understand about that?
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